12-05-2007, 11:05 AM
Ok here I am:
Canix: Remember Biklinc is just a collector and not there to make a profit. He is buying stuff to keep and not resale for profit. So he is paying what he believe is worth to obtain such pieces. Yes he might being inflating the market but is a consequence. My self as a collector will pay 50x the value of a piece to complete my collection (don't ask more
....) (Example the Kemmler Scenario pack, missed Kemmler him self looked for 5 years and not available, one day I got one offered for $500.00 well guess what bought it, after 2 months two showed up on eBay and went for $200 and $250.00 each. Remember collectors are not bad people)
Pyro: Yes I pay a lot if I need that piece for a collection I need to finish. See above answer to Canix.
Willmark: Yes I understand you also and your point of view. But that is how eBay works and is real even if intangible. But tell me, if you get offered or you find on eBay an auction of 300 Marauder CD in original blisters listed as Sweet Pony (totally wrong name just an example) and is going for $2.00, are you going to try to get it for $10.00 hoping no one will see you. Then get what you need and resale the rest at regular price making a big profit like 500% OR are you going to list the auction on this site? Essex and Wcrazy are looking to buy stuff cheap and make 300% out of it. Yes pisses a lot of people off but nothing wrong with it IMHO)
Also you talk about INFLATION? with collectors items this can not be done and is truly unrealistic. Instead of toy soldiers look at a Lamborghini or Viper (US version
....) from 1973 sold at $8000 then and tell the owner that with inflation now is worth $16000 and lets see what happens. When we all know that with collectors items this is not true. If I want to sell my Unreleased CD cannon as an example that was worth 15GBP at MO UK when produced 20+ years ago you will then offer me 25 or 30GBP? When we all know that the real value is about $300/$600.00 for it. Inflation can be used only for items widely available and very common to find. Rarity/Demand/Availability are the key words and there is no formula for it.
As for illegal well not illegal I expressed my self wrong, I don't care of what you are doing to them. If you guys post auctions here is just fine and very nice for the other. But what it bothers me are words like don't let Essex get it or similar. Is not nice, and what if they read this post?
Also looking at the way I value stuff I might become your next victim O____o if I decide I want to get 4 full units of 3rd Ed CD's and rate them at 10GBP each. Or you are hurting a serious collector like Biklinko that is just trying to complete his collection like you guys are doing.
LAST: "Lastly, Games Workshop is starting to take matters into its own hands. GW can't be to happy with the amount of trading going on, on eBay. Each has the potential of a unrealized sale of new models. thus they are moving to "Manufacture on demand" models. In theory this means they could produce any model in their catalog within a short period of time. Should that happen the very same people gouging on eBay could find the entire online market vanish due to GW making models as mentioned."
Sorry to tell you but GW really doesn't care about it believe me
for them doing so is unproductive. Manufacturing on demand was available from GW up to 7 years ago. You sent the code and they casted it. Looking at how GW is going in the future they will make available only time by time some selected models from the Archive. And believe me by 2008 all CD no matter what series will be OOP and will get harder to get.
Hope I was bale to explain what I meant with my words, and nothing against you guys or pro essexgirl or biklincko. I'm a neutral collector here and love Hashut and his little lead soldiers that is it.
Canix: Remember Biklinc is just a collector and not there to make a profit. He is buying stuff to keep and not resale for profit. So he is paying what he believe is worth to obtain such pieces. Yes he might being inflating the market but is a consequence. My self as a collector will pay 50x the value of a piece to complete my collection (don't ask more
....) (Example the Kemmler Scenario pack, missed Kemmler him self looked for 5 years and not available, one day I got one offered for $500.00 well guess what bought it, after 2 months two showed up on eBay and went for $200 and $250.00 each. Remember collectors are not bad people)Pyro: Yes I pay a lot if I need that piece for a collection I need to finish. See above answer to Canix.
Willmark: Yes I understand you also and your point of view. But that is how eBay works and is real even if intangible. But tell me, if you get offered or you find on eBay an auction of 300 Marauder CD in original blisters listed as Sweet Pony (totally wrong name just an example) and is going for $2.00, are you going to try to get it for $10.00 hoping no one will see you. Then get what you need and resale the rest at regular price making a big profit like 500% OR are you going to list the auction on this site? Essex and Wcrazy are looking to buy stuff cheap and make 300% out of it. Yes pisses a lot of people off but nothing wrong with it IMHO)
Also you talk about INFLATION? with collectors items this can not be done and is truly unrealistic. Instead of toy soldiers look at a Lamborghini or Viper (US version
....) from 1973 sold at $8000 then and tell the owner that with inflation now is worth $16000 and lets see what happens. When we all know that with collectors items this is not true. If I want to sell my Unreleased CD cannon as an example that was worth 15GBP at MO UK when produced 20+ years ago you will then offer me 25 or 30GBP? When we all know that the real value is about $300/$600.00 for it. Inflation can be used only for items widely available and very common to find. Rarity/Demand/Availability are the key words and there is no formula for it. As for illegal well not illegal I expressed my self wrong, I don't care of what you are doing to them. If you guys post auctions here is just fine and very nice for the other. But what it bothers me are words like don't let Essex get it or similar. Is not nice, and what if they read this post?
Also looking at the way I value stuff I might become your next victim O____o if I decide I want to get 4 full units of 3rd Ed CD's and rate them at 10GBP each. Or you are hurting a serious collector like Biklinko that is just trying to complete his collection like you guys are doing.
LAST: "Lastly, Games Workshop is starting to take matters into its own hands. GW can't be to happy with the amount of trading going on, on eBay. Each has the potential of a unrealized sale of new models. thus they are moving to "Manufacture on demand" models. In theory this means they could produce any model in their catalog within a short period of time. Should that happen the very same people gouging on eBay could find the entire online market vanish due to GW making models as mentioned."
Sorry to tell you but GW really doesn't care about it believe me
for them doing so is unproductive. Manufacturing on demand was available from GW up to 7 years ago. You sent the code and they casted it. Looking at how GW is going in the future they will make available only time by time some selected models from the Archive. And believe me by 2008 all CD no matter what series will be OOP and will get harder to get.Hope I was bale to explain what I meant with my words, and nothing against you guys or pro essexgirl or biklincko. I'm a neutral collector here and love Hashut and his little lead soldiers that is it.
