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Willmark Wrote:
This IMHO has a much greater chance of succeeding rather then iamahobgblin's idea, while noble, is doomed to failure. In this scenario its up to individuals to buy what they want or not (much like eBay itself). The difference here is that we are giving each other a heads up, nothing more. I'm totally fine with losing  an auction to someone on this site who I know (guess) will use the models, others.... no so much.


I agree, enlightened self interest is more likely to be a successful strategy than artificially regulating the price.
Giving a heads up about stuff on eBay shouldn't be hard considering how many members this site has.

Just post the link here and if multiple members on this site end up bidding on it then that's fine.
Ultimately it will be the market deciding what it is worth rather than an artifical regulatory scheme, and that is at it should be.

cornixt Wrote:
if you weren't prepared to bid the extra 5 pounds five minutes ago, why are you so keen to do it now?


It's just the psychology of some people on eBay.
For example, it someone (person A) bids (for the sake of argument) $100 on a figure as their maximum bid someone else (person B ) may come along and keep bidding on it until the adrenaline wears off and they decide to give up (say at $50).

If person A had not stuck in their maximum bid at $100 person B may have bid up to (for example) $30 which was enough to lead the auction and which they thought was an amount likely to deter any other bidders.  5 minutes before the end of the auction person A comes back and over bids person B with $31, wins the auction and saves himself about 20 bucks.

That is a very simple example, but hopefully it shows that people don't always bid rationally on eBay.  If you stuck in a maximum bid like eBay wants you to then people can keep pushing your bid up with their own bidding, which can end up being significantly more expensive than last minute overbidding.

There is a statute of limitations on feedback.
If it is too long after the auction ended eBay won't let you enter feedback.

iamahobgoblin Wrote:
its worth noting that you can block certain bidders bidding on your items , please everbody try to do this so they dont fall into the hands of an unscrupulous dealer


Brilliant in it's simplicity...

Canix Wrote:
Of course they can just buy under a different id.


Although setting up different user IDs is kind of a hassle (although perhaps in their case one worth putting up with).
There is also the fact that their main account won't get feedback if they buy through an alias (again that may or may not bother them).

Bottom line is, there really isn't much we can do to affect high prices without breaking the law.

Pyro Stick Wrote:
biklinictoo sniped loads of things last night. That person always reminded me of SWSNBN...


I guess they could be the same person, for all we know.

Pyro Stick Wrote:
Theres a Taurus hidden away in here.

http://tinyurl.com/2j8nhk


I'll never understand the logic of some sellers. He's put up 12 pictures, most of which show the same groups of figures from marginally different angles. It costs money to add so many pictures, and to make negligible use of them like that just astonishes me. He has even doubled three of the pictures.

Steve

A weird one from a zero feedback seller:
Earthshaker cannon: item 120195458871

I particularly like the "Other similar items can be purchased through e-bay for a flat rate $200.00" Rolleyes

Steve

This_Is_My_Boomstick!! Wrote:

Pyro Stick Wrote:

iamahobgoblin Wrote:
i do pyro you can have him for a shilling and tuppence


.......yeah how much is that?


after decimalisation the shilling is about 5p and tuppence is 2p, so 7p in total Happy


Tuppence is 2 old pence though, so just over 3/4 of a penny today Tongue
So just under 6p Happy

Someone tell that guy to bid on my stuff.

Please.  Tongue

Steve
Gah, I never even noticed that one.

'Course, mine look prettier Wink

Steve
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...0221291178

"Dwarf Sorceror"
Please let someone from here bid on it and win it.

Steve

angryboy2k Wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220221291178

"Dwarf Sorceror"
Please let someone from here bid on it and win it.


Well, that sucked.

Steve

This_Is_My_Boomstick!! Wrote:
ahhh i see why now, essex got it Sad

so how much do you think it will be up for in a few days


I did actually bid on it - I'm the only reason he/she paid more than minimum bid for it. Unfortunately I couldn't bid more than that on a model I don't need and international shipping to Taiwan. Especially since I'll be unemployed in very short order.

I expect to see it up for 15 quid if it's a penny.

Steve

First of all, Essex is a guy. The "girl" thing is probably to attract sympathy in the people with whom he/she has dealings. People from the typical wargaming demographic (male, late teens and older) are more likely to view a transaction with a female sympathetically, especially if she can concoct some sob story about how's she's "just puttin' mah kids through college".

Second, it would be a lot less irritating if he didn't bid on EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN auction for marginally cheap miniatures, chaos dwarfs, squats and zoats that comes up. I'm sure he must have a job as unproductive as mine, which allows him to surf the intarwebz all day in the office. His eBay search parameters must be enormous.

If it was just another collector, eventually he would stop buying because his collection would be complete. Essex isn't going to stop until he either realizes he's bought out the market or he dies.

Steve

Deebo Wrote:
I mean it would not be hard to have another Ebay ID or a friends and get them to jack the price up for ya and if you end up winning it from pushing it up too high, just let them off and send someone a 2nd chance offer!
What do you think?


That does happen on our national auction site over here.
Not sure about eBay, but it certainly wouldn't be a hard thing to do.

£982 as a starting bid... Shock!?!?

It's a good job I'm not a hat fanatic.  For that sort of price (assuming it does sell), do you think people will buy it then sell it again seperately?
20? (my comp has no pound symbol anymore) That is way too much.

I've found the pricing really weird. I went to look for hobbo command the other day and saw a drummer going for 21 pounds. Further down, I picked up a hornblower and standard for ten. There are some b*stards out there.
What price should I be looking at for a mint regiment of dwarf warriors?
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