no... its not worth its points... it cost more than a stone thrower and comes with one less crew...
its not our worst special choice... but its number 4 on the list... above Black orcs and Bottom of the barrel goblins...
nonsense...
no matter how well you guess... you'll scatter your small template weapon off them and hit nothing...
BTs can makes their points back with one kill... and present two targets for hunters to chase instead of one...
stone throwers are not reliable at anything...
even your ES will never make its points back in actual kills... its value is in the shake effect...
without shake the DR is pointless at best... and overpriced at worst...
its a nice model... but i can never justify it on the table...
I salute those of you who use it "just cause"... but if you are running BCs instead of ES...
then i'm not sure you can discuss the effective use of points without heavy scutiny...
nonsense...
no matter how well you guess... you'll scatter your small template weapon off them and hit nothing...
BTs can makes their points back with one kill... and present two targets for hunters to chase instead of one...
Metros right about BT being the more effective of the 2 though I personally prefer the DR simply because the model is awesome. Plus even though you get one less crewman the machine isnt that bad.
- Tallhat
I agree with AGPO on this, though I wouldnt throw in the towel just yet. We have had more attention come our way since SoC then we ever did before. We even had a Special Character for NC. I still think its just a matter of time, really. Remember that the whole range and image would have to be redone. Such things take time.
- Tallhat
One of my friends also plays them and he never leaves home without them. Plus, lets face it. The other rare choices in a HE army aint all that. Phoenix Guard..... Suckiest rare unit ever...
- Tallhat
The Phoenix Guard can only get better. And Intruige at Court is going as far as I know. Btw does Jake Thornton still work for GW?
- Tallhat
Sure was. I am however looking forward to this book. Do we know who writes it?
- Tallhat
Well there was talk of the HE's getting extra rare slots to combat the 1 for 1 deal. Though the always strike first rule definately negates any disadvantages of this. get ready for an onslaught of HE's around the tourney scene next year!
Cheers,
MAtty
Yes he can. If they get an additional rare choice he is def getting there!
AGPO: OMG yes White Lions!!! Suckiest Special Unit ever! And they used to be so cool.
- Tallhat
And Dragon Princes arent even that good. Id rather have a standard Imperial Knight than a Dragon Prince. Or even better a knight of the inner circle.
- Tallhat
Well some of us do play other armies as well...
*laughs* Yes. But certainly not HE thats for sure!!
- Tallhat
Anytime you want me to kick your army across the board with my pointy ears just let me know, always happy to oblige.
Youd have to come to Denmark for that 
haha! 
- Tallhat
Then feel free to be placed in Denmark so I can woop your hairy behind
- Tallhat
OMG! Youre right! *Stuffs Willmark into hat again* Back you go!
- Tallhat
I have a death rocket and Ive used it to great succes. When all is said and done it is just a Stonethrower and those rule big time
- Tallhat
Anytime you want me to kick your army across the board with my pointy ears just let me know, always happy to oblige.
Youd have to come to Denmark for that haha!
- Tallhat
Denmark? Where the he'll is that? On yeah its Germany's hat!
LMAO! No wonder we are blessed! You just solved the mystery!
Now the biggest mystery remains how come Im not the High Priest of Denmark.....
- Tallhat
Gah, Denmark. I'm stuck in the UK jealous that you make half decent larger and have a more sensilble monarchy... Maybe you should declare yourself High Priest of Hashut. In the UK if your house is a place of worship you can get out of certain types of taxes
Maybe I should.....
- Tallhat
The suspense is killing me
- Tallhat