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Tough one. But Id say plastic for rank-and-file  and metal for Characters and very special units.

- Tallhat

Metal, It is both the most Dwarven of the options and well it is just an extravagent display of wealth to showcase an army of all metal models. esspecially if its a chaos dwarf slave army with a minimum of 200 hobgoblins.

But yes seriously i would have to concure and agree that plastic is better, because as mentioned above its cheaper and easier to convert

I would say metal. GW obviously think plastic is worth more than metal so apart from being cheaper to buy i prefer to paint metal models.

Long enough if you look after them thats for sure.

- Tallhat

DONT HIDE!!! TOGETHER THEY COULD TAKE OVER THE FORUM!! WE HAVE TO FIGHT BACK!!!!!!!!

*hurls metal models at the both of them. Cause they are better. And heavier and have pointier corners *

*Throws back an ungodly amount of plastic minis at Pyro Stick preferably lots of Morley minis for added visual pain * Have at ye scurrvy Landlubber!

- Tallhat

I've said it before on these forums and on Warseer, but aside from the fact that a lot of us here are basically using plastic figures as ARMATURES for our greenstuff conversions, plastic really (really) is crap.

I hate it, I really do. I challenge anyone to look at this example of the new Chaos terminators (ignore the modifications) and tell me that it's better than the old metal ones (which, incidentally were the same price as the new plastics recently and MUCH cheaper not too long ago.)

You guys don't really need me to tell you how poor this sculpt is. Do you?

Steve

Oh..... Oh my word... Thats is utterly disgusting... We are still sure they fired Gary Morley?

- Tallhat

Plastic figures just feel like little kid's toys.
At least metal figures feel like something collectible.

I still have them. I even paly games with them.

  - Tallhat

o_O Strange child.

*does not mention he re-enacts Saving Private Ryan with his army men in a puddle of gasoline he then lights*

I'm sure that the cost of metal is the main factor behind GW switching over to plastic.
Some people seem to think it is also some kind of conspiracy to switch over to pre-painted plastics, but I just can't see that happening.

Companies like that can get away with it.
GW's problem is that they have so much invested in paints and the hobby side of gaming that if they switched to pre-painted plastics they would be killing off a chunk of their own revenue stream.

The best thing about metal is that it gives the sculptors a chance to show what they can do.
With plastic everyone will just end up with armies that look the same.  Sure there will be different paint jobs and some conversions but ultimately the variety will diminish.

I seem to have hundreds o fplastic models lying around cause i cant be bothered to paint them. You dont get the same satisfaction from plastic models. If metal models were ever completely eradicated from GW products i would quite the hobby immediately.

Yes, but how many of GW's kiddy target market are going to be converting the plastic figures they buy?  Not that many i'm guessing.

I always liked metal, like most people stated, it seems to be more satisfying then plastic and you can strip the paint off them at the end of the day if you don't like them as they are.

Depends what you're doing with the figure. You can easily do both, unless it's something like sticking a massive lump of metal on top of a thin plastic shaft to create a standard... Not that I've ever done that before. Honest.

Converting metal clearly requires a better plan than "let's chop this guy up". That's not to say I haven't done that, but I've always found that you'd better have a sketch or something when converting and cutting up metals.

Steve

You know, I've been meaning to answer this for ages because I've met Gary Morley, he is a stand-up bloke, and I really hate seeing him criticized. I know he was in charge of training sculptors at GW for a while and he is very talented. I've been thinking a lot about how maligned he is in many forums over his sculpting in general, and here's what I think.

From a technical viewpoint, Gary is actually an excellent sculptor. If you look at the things he's done, taken element by element they are actually really good. Where he falls down is in the bringing of these elements together to create a cohesive whole.

Take his Inquisitor figures for example. Four figures that he did for the line are Von Castellan, Van Jastobal (conversion of Castellan), Delphan Gruss, and Tezla (conversion of Gruss).

All the pieces are fantastic, and the ideas are really fantastic too. Von Castellan is running at (or away from!) an enemy. Jastobal has one of the coolest alternate heads EVER (borg-like bionics). Delphan Gruss has all these servo arms and pipes coming out of him, along with a WICKED left arm with giant spinny thing. Tezla has a monster axe and some very nice power tools.

However, when you begin to assemble them, you realize that without some minor modifications they don't quite look right. Tezla's right arm is at an unnatural angle (his left doesn't count because it's half wires). Gruss's right arm also sticks stiffly out from his body. Castellan and Jastobal, despite all the cool pieces and the running pose somehow manage to look a little stiff and need some bending out to look more natural.

I'm not as familiar with his 40K stuff, but I know he gets slammed for his Dark Eldar, and as I recall the design staff were given something like two weeks notice to produce most of that line. I do remember thinking at the time that they were fairly cool, and they certainly had their fans (though I wasn't really among them).

He is also eternally embarrassed by Nagash and wishes to god that the world could forget about that one.

Steve

Is Gary Morley the guy who designed the TK Bone Giants?