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OK so here is what I have been brooding over for the past few weeks..  having missed the last opportunity to purchase bull centaur bodies from the GW online store, I have finally decided to build them from scratch.

This is my most extensive GS work so far, and while some details on these miniatures may not be entirely correct, I think they get the idea across on the battlefield. ^^



Some detail shots of the heads and bodies:





I made all the parts interchangeable to allow me to build a full unit of 10 (at least) with as little sculpting work as necessary. The examples shown below are just two possible combinations.







The most obvious difference to the GW bull centaurs is the size - mine are quite big monsters now, and stand about twice the height of a Chaos Warrior. Shock This was not entirely intended, but the height is kinda dictated by the size of the toy bull that I used for the body.

I have yet to finish sculpting the hands and adding some finishing touches on the weapons. Before I go about making moulds and casting these in resin, however, I want to know what you think should be added or modified. Any good ideas and feedback will be much appreciated and rewarded with a) being made manifest in my miniatures and b) eternal gratitude by the House of the Cinderhats! Respect to the Hat!

Hashut!
What you have sculpted already looks great but you need to either do something about the size of the bull body (downscale it) and make the CD torsos larger. But that might make them look un naturally large for a chaos dwarf so the best thing to do would be to find someway of making the bull smaller.
Very awesome sculpting work.  Oddly the sculpting of the Dwarf bits greatly overshadow the toy bull, which looks silly by comparison.

I, like Willmark, believe you could do a better sculpt yourself.  Have any other knights they could stand next to for comparison?

Bloody brilliant work overall!
Another option I might try would be to shorten the legs, make it more stout!
Well, sculpting a believable bull body is quite painful - I still believe how the Taurus turned out in the end was more thanks to luck than skill.

I also pretty much adapted the proportions of the bodies to the size of the toy bulls now, so making smaller bull bodies may make the rest of the pieces look weird...

Shortening the legs a bit is however indeed an option - but then the back would probably look to long. But I can try that one out.

I'm not in a rush to finish this project anyway Wink so I think if I can produce a 'stuntier' bull body and still keep the other parts, it would be the best solution. Would be a shame to have to redo the torso pieces, as I am quite fond of them!
Ya, the torsos rock, but I am sure even those could be shortened up a little.

Happy

I trust your end product will marvel us all!
The toy bull was a indeed a calf, as I had to go for the smallest they had. That might be why the legs look a bit longer. I might actually try to sculpt the bull body myself now. Happy
Ishkur ftw. Wink
If you are to go of the trouble of casting I think you will have to be happy with what you've done.  If you think the scale is fine then keep it as is.

The armour on your bull parts would be fine for a frontal charge, but after that they would suffer a bit at their rear...
Female Cowcentaurs. Hehe.
Looks pretty sweet man!

The size is a vast improvement.  Should turn out beautiful.  Happy

Make sure they rank up! Wink
Those guys are HUGE, they'd give dragon ogres a run for their money!
Well, as all have said, that sculpting is outstanding. Easily the best I've seen in all my years trawling the 'net. As others have said, and you've taken aboard, too big. However, I thought when casting, you could adjust scales to make them smaller? You could always use the big ones as bull centaur characters and if you don't need two (or three Big Grin), then sell them as you planned. However, if you do that, I'd suggested rescultping the tail and removing a little baby fat towards the back end. As someone else mentioned, I think it's also look better if they had some more armour along their flanks and possibly rear, with rear greaves as well as frontal ones. As for the new scale, MUCH better, and the larger than dwarf-sized torsos=uber Hashut strength-blessing of doom! Effectively Big Grin I was going to suggest hacking the toy bulls in half and hacking the legs and sculpting new joins in, nut looking good so far.

Overall, I was speechless. More so than by any of the projects I've seen so far (which is saying something!). Many many kudos!
Totally amazing!  Keep it up, the final product will be worthy of much envy!

Ishkur ftw!
WHat he should do is sell the molds.  Then the buyer can cast them. Wink
I really like the addition of the extra plating towards the rear, etc. Excellent. If you're ever looking to sell casts, I'm ready to buy Wink As I said before, excellent work and most impressive!
Make some notches, like GW does.  After all, they split it vertically too. Happy
The curves are great, what's the design on the shield going to be?
Looking sweet man!  Can't wait to see them painted! Happy  They look mean and nasty! Big Grin
Gotta have more cowbell.

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