04-06-2008, 01:42 PM
They do still use runes, at least in the non-magical sense. A lot of people may start to say that we use runes to bind daemons to thing. I'd say at the very least we may use it to bind magic to weapons etc.
This sounds logical to me.
Ahh, so it was basically proposed Fluff.
http://www.madalfred.darcore.net/Articles.html
"History of Chaos
This article was co-written with Anthony Ragan and accompanied our proposal to write the WFRP RoC for Hogshead. This article appeared in Tim Eccles' Origin of Tree Worship #5, which can be order from the by clicking this link to Shadow Warriors and then clicking on Warhammer. This article has also been translated, I believe, for Le Grimoire."
Side note: Origin of Tree Worship is a fan magazine.
Which Dwarf book did he do?
Thanks for clearing this up. 
Actually, it says that the Ancestor gods were still in physical form (and I believe had taught them runic magic) when the Chaos dwarfs bcame Chaos dwarfs.
Actually, it says that these three Ancestor gods (it states ancestor gods, I believe) didn't arise, nor did any hero like them, to lead the dwarfs away from Chaos. This, therefore, means that the gods did exist by this point, as gods, but they just didn;t stop the Chaos dwarfs going off to the Darklands.
Correction, they never knew them as anything but dwarfs. Therefore, they didn;t know they were gods. This is why they say that they believe the dwarfs abandoned them as opposed to their gods abandoning them.
The unprinted version says that they were heroes at the time of the Chaos dwarfs leaving. It doesn't say the runesmiths had been around for a long time, by that point, but even if they had, the ancestor gods lived for the same amount of time as an average elf (minimum, as I believe one or two lived longer. One to 6,000 if memory serves) and so it'd still be plausible.
They were Heroes at the time. Grimnir later had a son who he handed off his axe to before stalking off into the wastes, as detailed in "The Doom of Grimnir" one page after "The Orphans".
They couldn't have been heroes as they didn't arise to lead them. They lead the dwarfs whilst they were heores.
But, anyway, we digress. I had just posted something, but my internet failed as I clicked send and I cannot rememeber what a lot fo it said, excepting that I mentioned there was little need for the "after (repeat: after)" as we are all mature on here and also that I mentioned that anything I say on any thread is liable to a clause of, I accept I may be wrong and if so would like to be corrected politely.
The only other points I recall was an agreement that the author perhaps did push too far on the Balrogesque theme occurring and also that either way, the runesmiths, had there been any, were all killed anyway and thusly, that is why Chaos dwarfs do not use runes. I beleive another point I'd made (which I've just recalled) was that one is official and one is not, therefore, the one that is official is correct and there should be no disagreement there. Problem solved.
Verdict: Chaos dwarfs don't use runic magic becase the runesmiths (who didn't exist anyway and thusly never went, according to official fluff) were all killed as sacrifices to Hashut (according to unofficial fluff), causing there to be no method of creating runic magics akin to the Western Dwarfs. Perhaps we then developed daemon-binidng runes, but that's not been defined in fluff yet, we've just been told daemon-binding occurs.