evening all.
I don't know if you have been reading the lates White Dwarf, but there is a tast of what will be in the new Warriors of Chaos Army Book.
- And funny some persons at GW might have been hearing our warcries, about getting CDs back in the game.
- Since the Hellcannon now will be a standard Rare choice, and only take up a "single rare choice".
If I remember right it took up two - right???
- In my opinion, it is just a cheap way of making an armylist (I know, I know - it is just a promo list) - but why not include Flayerkin & Chaos Furries (I don't remember the right name) again?
- At this point, it also seems that CD don't make a comeback in a near future
Well thats all, let me know what you think about it.
Cheers All
We've been over this in numerous threads, numerous times. While anything is possible I just dont think its likely that we will be in HoC.
Also, I will be watching this thread closely, keep it civil everyone...
@Merchant
It's 2 rare slots actually
I am fairly certain the Hellcannon will be in the actual WoC list, but nothing else CD related. I am hoping for lots of fluff mentions.
Given how GW want everything to be so individually portioned, being in the WoC list would effectively kill off any chance of a full CD army. And they keep saying they want to do one.
Agreed, GW needs to *edited for content* or get off the pot.
I think there is a desire for GW to do Chaos Dwarfs... its simply a case of larger forces @ work. GW is in a much different place right now then say even 5 years ago. Being a publicly owned company is a much different thing then private and GW is experiencing that first hand.
@Vexxus you do have a point that I agree with however.
@Cornixt
No, that's not necessarily true.
They are not having crossovers whereby you need to buy another book just have have the rules. They could however reprint the same rules (in some form or another) in both books.
Tbh I seriously doubt the hellcannon would make it into WA:CD unchanged.
They wouldn't reprint the same rules in two different books, because then it causes problems when you update one of them. They could probably fit in a unit of Chaos Dwarf Marauders, which would have associated fluff that made them clear that they weren't normal CDs.
Matthias is right, its a change in policy. When the same rules are printed in two books it makes it awkward ehen you update one of them. For the same reason DoW have been taken out of all army books not because the rules have been removed but to give GW more options should they re-do them
I'd quite like Chaos dwarfs in the new book as its that unlikely that CDs will ever get their own book, since now thats its been left this long a lot has been left to the players interpretations, so the book couldnt measure up, if they were part of another army they could still have quite a vague fluff like they have up till now. Also it seems likely they will be in this book as other than the return of harpys to chaos and perhaps a mutant unit theres not that much stuff they can include in the new book, CDs will give interesting opportunity's, like BBs giving chaos a missile unit, perhaps a special? we can but speculate
Doesn't boad well for orcs or gobins in a CD army.. Hobbos will be fine however...
I'm not so sure about the Hobboes being a guaranteed inclusion.
After such a long period of time there is no guarantee that GW wouldn't just redesign the fluff from the ground up.
You're right though, there is certainly more chance of them getting included than Orcs and Goblins.
On another note, IF a couple of CD units were in the new book, GW might be more inclined to release a WD list for CDs, like they did with kroot mercs a while back, the only reason they say they won't do one at the moment is because they don't have the models to support one.
They wouldn't need models to support a White Dwarf list, they could just release an article outlining how to convert BfSP Dwarfs into Chaos Dwarfs. That would give CD an updated list and help GW flog some more BfSP box sets. I may be wrong, but it surely couldn't involve much more work than the Zombie Pirates or Hell Pit lists did.
That the excuse they gave, not saying it won't change IF models are brought out. I can see where they're coming from though, not everyone can do beards that well, even with Xander's excellent tutorials and for many its too much work for an army, notably the majority of GW customers who are kids, if there was already a kit with CD parts in it they could just combine parts, like with zombie pirates, kroot mercs...
I see your point though
Indeed GWs seeming reluctance to even acknowledge veteran gamers is indeed puzzling. I'm fine with them targeting the 9 year old "Space Marines are cool" crowd. I just can figureout the reluctance to support the gamer crowd as well.
What GW might want to consider is the fact that someone could very easily do a open GL ruleset of their entire game including armybooks... Food for thought GW.
Is the journal still going? Perhaps their relying on that to keep the long beards entertained.
Failing that there's the General's Compendium....but i wasn't terribly impressed
Unfortunately CD aren't mentioned much at all in the new WoC army book.
Have you read all the contents yet? Highly suspicious this is, wallacer!
Well I have pre-ordered the spearhead and I can't wait to read all the cool stuff in the new army book. I'm quite sure the Chaos Dwarfs will get a fair share of mention.
They'll certainly appear in the Hellcannon background, and possibly in relation to Juggernauts. That would be about it though.