i know GW dosen't listen to any one but why? thay are a buissness that want's to make money so they need to listen to there fan base 'cos we buy the thing's so we need to like it if they just made mini that they liked but other's didn't they wont make money so there digging there self's a hole can any one tell me why they don't listen to us because we are the heart of the buissness thanks
How do you mean they don't listen? About CDs, or just in general?
Theres likely to be a big difference between what we, the seasoned gamers, want, and what makes them the most money. Kids and their parents are what make them the most money, not veteran hobbyists. So, the days when gamer's concerns were at the fore are over, as far as sales are concerned. The recent, awful models are the most obvious sign of this, although I feel their rules writing gets better and better.
i know GW dosen't listen to any one but why? thay are a buissness that want's to make money so they need to listen to there fan base 'cos we buy the thing's so we need to like it if they just made mini that they liked but other's didn't they wont make money so there digging there self's a hole can any one tell me why they don't listen to us because we are the heart of the buissness thanks
They absolutely do listen to the fan base, the problem is the fanbase is primarily comprised of nine year olds who play Ultramarines.
but you can be young and be a veretran collector i'm 12 and started collecting when i was six and frankly i think games workshop just looks after the quick sale and not the long term buyer for example instead of new miniatures for specialist games which is for exprienced gamers or a new skaven book they are gonna released new space marines because they are popular with young uns but overlooking expierced cd or skaven players space marines didn't need an update anyway
i remember when i first started collecting at the age of 6 and all i was intrested in were the new modals oh look that one has a bigger gun i must buy it and GW now know that and think thay can make the childs perents buy it with there huge banks of money but do the young one know how to play do they know the history of WH the answer no 'cos all they like is the fact that little mini fight each other GW said we want every one to have fun playing WH but how can we have fun if all they are thinking about is there ass'es they think a child can make his/her perent buy them stuff 'cos it's the new one all i can say is i'm a shamed with them
but this fan base of nine years are constanly leaving because of the price and geeky image
well gw stuff is higher than cypress hill. Its rare that i buy much gw anymore and second if you have a nice army they will change the rules in a year to favor the elves
Now if only I could start bootlegging free models from the internet like I do my music.
what you say is true, of course, but as ex-staff i find it hard to support them as a business, possibly due to leaving on bad terms, possibly not.
but in fairness, GW staff got 80% discount in my day. yet they still made a profit from staff sales. even now, staff stll get 50% discount.
essentially, my point is that they are making in excess of 5 times the cost of the materials back from what they sell, which i think is a bit OTT. however, people will continue to pay, therefore, prices will continue to rise.
so regardless of whether im interested in the lastest army they have released or not, i dislike how expensive their products are, as once you have paid 11p per space marine and still paid more than it costs the company to make it (or 11p per sprue of 10, as one cock up resulted in.. superfella 1, GW 0), I understandibly feel begrudged at paying £18 for 10.
which, to my reckoning, is about 16 times more expensive.
4. White dwarf, whilst degenerating into a glorified catalogue, is still GWs way of letting us know what's going on in their world. Looking at the circulating figures, and printing costs mentioned in a thread similar to this, GW does not make money from WD and most probably runs it at a loss. Is that a faceless, uncaring mercinary company?
The trouble is, it's easy to lash out at GW when the miniatures/rules they release aren't to your liking but just remember, you were that 'first time' buyer once, and all of this was aimed at you.
by god he on to some thing about us being frist time buyer and i remeber when i first started i didn't like being left behide so i bought the new minis and i though WD was there company if not who are they?
so regardless of whether im interested in the lastest army they have released or not, i dislike how expensive their products are, as once you have paid 11p per space marine and still paid more than it costs the company to make it (or 11p per sprue of 10, as one cock up resulted in.. superfella 1, GW 0), I understandibly feel begrudged at paying £18 for 10.
which, to my reckoning, is about 16 times more expensive.
your on to something to a lot of my friend suse to play but they thought it was to expensise so GW you have just lost 4 constmars 
On the bright side, when little Timmy gets bored with his new toys he sells them on eBay and then veterans get to pick up stuff cheaper.
Ah yes, a fantastic aspect of the hobby, heh. I don't really begrudge GW from raising prices or catering to the quick customer. I still like everyone at my FLGS, and I can always buy GW stuff cheaper elsewhere, so it's never really been a problem for me.
4 color glossy and that page count... there is no way that GW is making a profit. WD is a loss leader... and a bad one at that.
#1 all the stores that sell gw around me don't push gw hard they say no one buying this stuff. so every 6 month they sell off the stuff that not moving
the same store has some one from reaper to the store GIVES OUT FREE FIGURES!! has free painting contest with reaper figures and stuff if you win
G w gives you nothing but high pricesand price increaces
#2 any one with a ink pen can number crunching. mostly they relay on made up number than having product that will make them proffet or buy out there competator
#3 the decline is from all of us since the Storm of chaos!!!!!!
they keep changing rules !!! they just want you to buy more
and promising rule books
#4 wd only have stuff when they push new product.
Now back with what about there failed run campains like the nemis crown
they put out new dwarf minners made a big hype!!!! But if it was not for all the online sites that would stunk !! so we all new that the dwarfs would win it back.
Was it All just to get you to buy there new dwarf minners. Gw did care or gave thanks to all the sites (they read all the site stuff too)
the nenise crown was a disater they wanted a campange and they buggered it up but still no one has answered my question (well they prible did but i'm not listnen) i know about the 9 year olds taken over but if GW wants more money why don't they keep both buyers or are they lazy
* Kera stands up and starts clapping* that is so true H.B. Number don't add up to nothing and they never will . number are here to tell us how much time where wasting!!!
well done h.b
gw's probelm is their addicted to brain crack!!!!!
i really should release a new cd book or skaven book or some decent plastics for my loyal veterans but i need to make more space nazis for my fickle but gullible fanbase of nine year olds who have lots of money space nazis it is then
How do you mean they don't listen? About CDs, or just in general?
Theres likely to be a big difference between what we, the seasoned gamers, want, and what makes them the most money. Kids and their parents are what make them the most money, not veteran hobbyists. So, the days when gamer's concerns were at the fore are over, as far as sales are concerned. The recent, awful models are the most obvious sign of this, although I feel their rules writing gets better and better.
thats so true
I do all I can to avoid buying new models lol
I like the older ones (eg Kislev)