Take of the Khorne symbols, and add some monstrous wings, and I picture him something like this:
Sort of like an Avatar of Hashut, or Greater Daemon if you will.
What do you picture him like?
Pretty much the same, but covered in a shadow and being wreathed in flames (that do not illuminate the darkness around him, because he is the Father of Darkness...)
i do not see as humanoid at all...
a firey bull wreathed in shadow...
I don't see him with a beard, but I think that's partly because I've always assumed that the CD had beards because they are Dwarfs, not because they are copying their god.
well i like the chains... ties back in with the Daemon prince fluff...
and imprisoned daemon... perhaps this is where the Chaos dwarfs learned the art of Daemon binding...
form a daemon that "lived" through it...
I think the Balrog certainly does resemble what Hashut might look like. Certainly a Father of Darkness, but also of Fire and Slavery. That whip is killer.
Especially if the Dwarfs did indeed find Hashut underground "in the deep places of the world."
In the Liber Chaotica there was a description of a bull-like daemon prince which could very well have been Hashut. See for yourself (emphasis mine):
Behind him followed eight creatures each with faces that looked in every direction. I peered upon them and knew them to be the eight princes of blood, and their names were Bharoea, Falhlyytar, Kwenterraril, N'Nerthryl, Irshordyr, Yiotderss, Daccq'tlao and Gzardentane...
And the Lord of Blood did stand before the second creature, which was a bull of fire and flowing metal, which had four legs and four legs more and had a gaze of fire that scorched whatever its gaze fell upon. And this second creature did bow before his master. And the Lord of Blood did raise his sword and strike the head of this second creature from its body.
And as the blade cleaved through its neck there blossomed a pillar of fire that reached up high above the world and then dove down to bore into its heart. Upon which each hill and mountain of the world was consumed in its flame which shattered their peaks and threw them high into the air to fall upon the peoples fleeing from their hidden homes. Thus none could hide from the final wrath.
Don't forget the one that encompasses all four gods and has a little undivided in it as well!
all gods are aspects of chaos... aspects of the big 4...
and a great many of them have their own free will...
not a renegade blood thirster... that is impossible...
Hashut is a renegade daemon prince...
which is quite possible... and is how gods are made...
and yes ALL gods are of Chaos... elves, dwarves, humans, ogres, 3 toed-sloths...
"These are the greatest of the gods to who all other gods - each and every one - are but portions or conjunctions"
the bold is mine... but the seperation by hyphen is the work of GW...
"To imagine that those very dieties were but shards of the infinitely more mighty thing that is Chaos would be too terrifying for any priest of Sigmar, Ulric, or priestess of Shayalla to even contemplate. As wiser and less sanctimonious Elves might counsel, it is best to put such thoughts aside and let doubts remain unvoiced, for the alternative it to turn to darkness."
OMG hashut is bob marley!!!!
well sure if you choose to ignore HoC page 15 you can consider whatever you want...
well in case the elevated gods like sigmar or dwarf anscestor gods...
these individuals are not infact the gods at all...
but rather something in the warp assumes their form when the worship began...
No doubt the enitity that became "sigmar" existed in one form or another long before the mortal sigmar appeared...
but it was only after the legendary human that was called "sigmar"...
that people began to worship the particular things that the entity represents...
i imagine the "Sigmar entity" has to do with martial prowess ... and so falls exclusively under an aspect of Khorne...
aye... but the "beliefs" that the sigmar enitity represents existed before sigmar the man...
its just that people could now put a name on that belief... whatever it is...
with larger enities like the big 4 the beilef is so basic that it can be identified very easily...
Hope is Tzeench, Rage is Khorne, Despair is Nurgle...
Pleasure is Slaanesh... but even this is relatively new...
as Human being developed leisure over just plain survival so developed Slaanesh...
What sigmar represents cannot be put into so many words... or words at all really...
But whatever it is... it existed before the man sigmar came along...
and as dogma grew up around this man's life...
so too did the sigmar entity elevate to god status...
These gods... the lesser gods... the good gods...
are what happens when one places a magnifying glass over a very small part of Chaos...
While the Big four are wholly neutral to the morality of humanity (or elves or dwarves)...
Shayalla for example is of an aspect of Nurgle...
She represents healing... and so nurgh: the will to live...
Nurgle represents the will to live... but that will is not restricted to human or elfkind...
he is patron to all life... and so disease is his emblem...
as that is where the most life can exist in the one place at the one time...
the constant state of disease in his followers is a tribute to life... not in mockery of it...
and even tho Shayalla hates Nurgle... and fights against him (as sigmar against khorne)...
she is inherently part of him... but an infintely small part of him...
the part concerned with the well being of pointy-eared tree huggers...
i don't know about linking a god to a specific place... if the place becomes captured does he cease to be a god?
perhaps the thing that became Sigmar came about from the fragmentation of the larger thing that was nationalism...
rather than a god rising we have a god breaking away...
or are all country gods just the worship of the god of nationalism by many different names?
um... he is a chaos god...
all gods are chaos gods...
see page 3...
His reference to page three is his reference to page 15 of the Hordes of Chaos army book. Anyway, please return to on-topicness. if you wish to debate with the facts presented, please start such a thread elsewhere. I don't mind the banter, it just makes sense not to hijack a thread. As for my opinion on what Hashut looks like, take a gander's at the first (might be second) page.
Hashut doesn't really strike me as the party type... unless of course Hashut is infact bob marley...
as I said on page one I dont think there is any humanoid in Hashut... hes all bull...
I also like the description in Liber Chaotica (a bull with 4 extra legs)... Assyrian influence...
tho im pretty sure Hashuts sacred number is 4... isn't that right?
Can I purchase this Liber Chaotic online anywhere?
well... the relevant passage is quoted on page 1 of this thread...
the Liber Chaotica: Khorne has 2 Hashut passages... this one about the end times...
and the other about the origin of the juggernauts...
well its hard to say with racial gods really...
hobgoblins for example... could be worshipping Hashut... or could be worshipping Gork and Mork...
or it could be that because Hobgoblins have turned to Hashut...
Gork and Mork no longer grant them Waaagh! powers...
i'd say that other races could worship the god of another race...
the Big four are "human" gods for lack of a better term...
yet other races worship them from time to time...