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Well, I'd think an increase in initiative is not inline with the CD's. And especially their sorcerors, For crying out loud, everytime they use magic they are turning slowly into stone.

perhaps a decrease in initiative and an increase in str would be in order.. just my thoughts.

9 Leadership is worlds better than 3 Initiative, I'd say.

Come to think of it, I don't think you could do just a simple +1-1 situation with the Chaos Dwarves. They are the only remaining army from 4th-5th edition that has not graduated. All those other armies have gone through extensive changes. Some units saw little to no change while other (usually special or rare units) saw extreme changes. I'd think the same would happen if and when the CD's are looked at more extensively.

Perhaps, even a new unit would be warrented. Perhaps.. One can only hope..

swissdictator Wrote:

If we got a special unit of foot troops would you rather have: immune to psych or stubborn?

I love stubborn, and I've often said it is one of my favorite rules. With BSB two chances at 9 or even 10 are wonderful, however with Demons, VC, and Forest Spirits running amuck then immune to psych could be very useful too... of course causing fear is perhaps better then being immune to psych (aside from being vulnerable to panic).

I'd love it if Bull Centaurs caused fear! Big Grin

That'd make them even more of a potent weapon.

well, considering ogres and minotaurs all cause fear, it would definately fit in.

now, if the taurus or lamassu caused terror, that would be even better..

I don't think that Chaos Dwarfs should have different stats tha nomal dawarves. The stats of basic trooper of all elves are the same, but they still kept different by rules and equipment.

Thommy H Wrote:

I don't even think Chaos Dwarfs need special rules - certainly not Stubborn for everyone. That's powerful. Only elite units in other armies get that. Again, no one has provided any convincing reasons for CDs being more powerful than Dwarfs in future incarnations besides "we would like our army to just be better". I doubt very much it's going to happen, and the flimsy reasons don't cut it for me.

I don't say CD need some very powerfull armywide special rules, and deffinately not stubborn. I think they need some unique characteristic special rule, probably with some disadvantages. For example "He who runs away lives to fight another day", "Strenght in numbers", "Life is cheap" and "Lead from the back" describes Skaven character very well, makes army rather unique and isn't overpowered. I love something similar in CD armybook.

Kera foehunter Wrote:

i think the need a group like the slayer that are unbreakable.
besides that i think they should be the sameas the dwarfs

Why should CD need unbreakable unit? Especialy when normal Dwarfs have one, I think last thing GW should do is to make Dawi'Zharr just "Dwarfs with spikes and some daemons". And Most of armies does just fine without unbreakable units.

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