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One thing to watch out for is slightly differently spelled titles for the same thing.  I noticed that there is a Zharr-Naggrund and a Zharr Naggrund, and I have come across a few other similar ones.  I think the latter one is the correct spelling in this case so the other should just be a redirect.  My net access is rather intermittent at the moment but I should be properly online by the end of the week (give me my router Comcast!)

A couple of things:  use the preview button to check your work before you save it, that way there won't be so many revisions needed (and they each get stored, taking up space on Xander's server)

Also put a little note in the summary so that people have some idea of what you have done.  Some pages have gone through 5 revisions, adding and removing the same stuff, ending up almost where they started and it isn't clear why the changes were made.

Hashut's Blessing, do you realise that you are deleting pictures in each of your revisions?

Any comments are welcome.

I'm not happy with the current arrangement/content of the following related pages, they need a bit more organisation:
Chaos Dwarf Model Range
Chaos Dwarf Bits
Chaos Dwarf Catalog

There is a bit too much overlap between them at the moment, and it's partly my fault for not organising it properly in the beginning.

I propose the following:
Chaos Dwarf Model Range has painted examples of the official models.  It doesn't need to be comprehensive, just representative of each type of unit.  No catalog pages, no bits, no conversions.  Eventually try to have only fan photos of their painted miniatures rather than the scans of the GW models.  I'd like to only have the current range, but there isn't one really so group models under their edition(s).  There is a big lack of 3rd edition models that fit in here so if you know of any good examples of painted 3rd ed models then let me know.

Chaos Dwarf Catalog has the catalog pages, including (or especially) those with bits.  Any adverts, box art should also go here.  I've already filled it with links to all the relevent pages from Stuff of Legends (if there are any I've missed then tell me or add them).  I'd like to clean up the catalog pictures and have a thumbnail gallery to supplement the links rather than replace the links.  Most 2nd/3rd and 4th/5th edition models have been done.  I've cross checked all the models and the older pages of CDs on foot are far more complete than the 3rd ed pages, but the 3rd ed pages are better quality so I've used them as a base and just created an etxra page with the ones that are midding.  There are a massive 100 different CDs in 3rd ed, including six war machine crew (but not BCs).  I have produced a cross reference spreadsheet of the pages they are on in the various catalogues and associated names but I'm not sure what to do with it at the moment.

Chaos Dwarf Bits will have its content moved to the catalog and then the page will be deleted.

Finally: Catalog or Catalogue?  Seems to be mostly UKians or Canadians here so the latter seems more appropriate.


Catalogue Pages to have (split some pages where necessary):

(3rd) CDs1 - full page - DONE
(3rd) CDs2 and renegades - full page - DONE
(3rd) crossbows - partial page - DONE

(3rd) whirlwind - full page - DONE
(3rd) tenderiser - full page - DONE
(3rd) juggernaut - full page - DONE
(3rd) mortar/swivel/bazooka - partial page - DONE

(3rd)odds: beastmaster, 303(11, 14, 15, 17, 19, 22), 304(01, 06, 18, 19) - Created a page, so DONE
Change of plans, separate renegades from CDs2 and put these extra models in their place.

Black Dwarf and Zombie Ninja need a page - might include Kludge, spikey dwarf and AD&D Evil Dwarfs on it.
Siege Gun not anywhere yet.

Hobgoblin pages needed

Related Games
(3rd) Bloodbowl - partial page - DONE
(4th) Bloodbowl - (4 CD players, 4 HG players, Hthark) - Need to make page
manowar1 - partial page - DONE
manowar2 - full page - DONE

Can't edit that page, the best I get is to view the Source.  I have proper internet connection now so it will be much easier to update the wiki when I need to.

I'm not sure if I was actually.  Logged in now and it works!
Must have lost a cookie in my PC update or something.

The catalogue is practically finished now.  You can see it on the Chaos Dwarf Catalog page.

I'm doing a page for all the minor armies (that is, the armies that don't have a full page of their own on the wiki because they aren't significant enough to Chaos Dwarfs - the armies that are significant already have their own page).  All references to these armies should point to this one page.  There are quite a few references to these armies from other wiki pages so it does seem to be required in some respect.  I've got it partially done but needs a lot more work.

The page is called Other Warhammer Armies and it contains brief descriptions of the army, including main fluff, unit types, and how the army works.  I've filled in bits and pieces but not much, all of it needs improvement.  It is entirely text so if you've never edited a wiki before it is really easy to do.  Just click the edit tab at the top of the page, find the section you want and start typing.  Don't be afraid!  You can't screw it up, any mistakes can be easily undone.

Edit it here: Other Warhammer Armies

So, at Cornixt's suggestion in another thread, I had a look at the wiki to see if I could find anything that obviously needed editing. I clicked around randomly until I found the Zorn Uzkul page which seemed pretty lacking, so I beefed it up with some Gringor Ironhide stuff and a closer description to what's given in WDP: Chaos Dwarfs.

I hope I'm not stepping on any toes...?

I've been working on expanding some of the information regarding Orcs and Goblins, due to the fact the units (or indeed models, in the case of Night Goblins) can be used in Chaos dwarf armies, this isn't causing any problems I hope .

I've added a few pages, including Zhatan the Black, Gorduz Backstabber and The Black Dwarf (which still needs editing, since I can't remember exactly what magic items he has). I also expanded the White Dwarf article and the White Dwarf Presents: Chaos Dwarfs one, since it was kind of lacking for what is the only real source of almost all the Chaos Dwarf fluff.

Good work people.  

We originally had a separate page for each greeenskin type but found that there wasn't more than half a page of info for each of them, so they were consolidated into a single page.  If you think you can come up with a full page then by all means, but otherwise it would be better to be a subsection of the Orcs and Goblins page.

Just for reference on this thread, there is a Wiki Plans page.

I've done some work on the Bull Centaurs page, since it was pretty lacking when I found it.

I've also been adding quite a few pictures to various pages too. I think it makes everything look a lot nicer and more like an actual reference page rather than just something someone has quickly typed out. If that contradicts policy for some reason though I'll stop doing it.

Excellent work, pictures are good in general as long as they are relevent.  The aim is to get entirely fan-based pictures eventually, but until then the GW pics are fine.

Recent wiki changes

See the full list at Special:Recent Changes | Recent Changes page.

For people updating the wiki, I've created a Wiki Editing#How to Add Images | How to Add Images section to the Wiki Editing page, which should make things a little easier for people new to the wiki.  It is probably a good idea to add it to the weekly wiki threads (which are averaging out at monthly!).

Check out Wiki Plans if you want to help with the wiki but don't know where to start.

I've updated the sidebar to better classify the links in it.  For some reason it turns some capital letters into small letters.  It looks like a font or format issue.  There is also a new Contents page, which should help people browse the wiki more easily rather than aimless wandering (especially since the search function only really works if you really know what you are looking for).  The Glossary now is an actual glossary rather than a partial contents page.  There's probably a lot more terms that can be added and it should save the need to create entire pages for some small matters.

I wasn't happy about having a separate page for each of the races of Orcs and Goblins.  I don't see how there is enough info on each type of greenskin to warrant an entire page without going into a level of detail that is unsuitable for the wiki.  They are all so similar that it could lead to a lot of repetition and make it more confusing for readers.  I've consolidated most of the O&G info onto a single page.

The same goes with certain unit types in other related armies.  The more pages we have about similar things, the more difficult it is to find information.  I might create a Bestiary page and if anyone feels the need to add the less important creatures/units then they can go on there, but generally it is beyond the scope of the wiki.

The special characters pages are pretty good now.  Very descriptive.

I'm pleased with how the Other Warhammer Armies is being fleshed out and it is nice to see a few more people contributing.  Slaves attributed.

I got logged out without realising it so a few changes were done under a normal IP address rather than my name.  I've replaced the Code Reference page with a more general Wiki Editing page.  It contains all of the code reference stuff, plus more to do with what this wiki is about.  

Kudos and slaves to Thommy H who has put a lot of work in recently, plus thanks to some of the others who have tried their hand at wiki editing.  It's nice to know when my bad typing is not only noticed but corrected.

I wrote this post gradually over the course of several days so some of it might not make sense!

I've recently updated a few pages on the wiki and created a load more.  Additions include Banners and separate Hobgoblin unit pages.  There have been some good additions by Grimstonefire, Revlid and Uzkel Werit.  I'd like to go through and add a lot of the conversion pics on the modelling forum to the wiki, but I'm not sure I have the time.

As suggested by someone on the site a while ago, I have come up with a page which is more about the Chaos armies rather than Chaos itself.  I've stuck it up so that people who have more experience with chaos armies can add to it or change the bits where I am wrong.

Here's the link: Chaos (army)

Wiki weekly will be starting again after xmas

Working on the "Wanted Pages". I'll update the list in this post as I do new pages.

(4/5/2008)
Mostly just locations on the edge of the Darklands.
- Pigbarter
- Black Fortress
- The Sentinels
- Flayed Rock

Quick wiki question: can we have some kind of consensus on how pages should be laid out? I've noticed that some of the pages I created/edited have been altered so that the images are all on one side. I think it looks more aesthetically pleasing if they alternate (because otherwise the article looks too image-heavy), but apparently someone feels differently.

So can we discuss it?