yay, we get a book, ha take that everyone who dosen't like chaos dwarves
lol profits are down.
my gf's companys profits went down from something like 500m to 490m, so they had to cut down on lightbulbs, despite the fact they still made 490m. i dont understand how big business works, i just know a pub is a bit useless without lightbulbs.
anyway back on topic - hopefully ill have a usable army the day the book comes out!
And really, most of the drop of in sale is probably from all the LoTR players moving on after the hype started dyeing down.
what goes up must come down.
i actually blame video games. when we were kids we couldnt afford to have much in the way of video gaming, maybes 1 or 2 new games a year between us, but we could get a few models and a few paints and that would keep us entertained much longer.
now that kids all seem to sit for their whole lives infront of the tv playing on their playstations and xbox's i cant see them being convinced that spending 2 hours painting a model can be as exciting. I would bet all toys and childrens entertainment is suffering as a result.
if i were them id make a re-release of heroquest, a whole adventure in a box sort of thing, except with space marines. nice and simple for ages 8 to 12 ish, with a tv advert. that is bound to sell and get kids into it, ho we al know grow up into us men who spend good chunks of our wages on soldiers.
Ah yes, Talisman could be really fun.
i chekced though they arent releasing miniatures with it just cardboard, so i cat see it being an entry into the hobby as heroquest was for so many of us diehards.
i think thats the thing there are a lot of people who start older and dont keep it up, whereas my friends and i who have been doing it 15+ years arent going to stop any time soon. and lets face it at a young age the models are more eye catching than the game itself
well, there arre GW greens of samurai armoured goblins but my boss (i work part time at GW now) wouldn't tell me what they where, but i think i just figured it out
1. i don't have pics, my boss just came in wit them in his case
2. I like my job
i think they should make some films of their own to market themselves a bit better. everyone has always looked at fantasy gaming as a taboo - a dungeons and dragons roleplay type geeky pastime. some really good films utilising the advent of CGI / computer animation could be made at a cheap price and reach new audiences dispelling popular misconceptions about the hobby. the dawn of war game has done well for them why not bring the action to a larger screen. and also if they hadnt f****ed up warhammer online im certain that would be more popular than world of warcraft by now . this is the 21st century they need to think past the models and magazines and get with the times . otherwise by the time they do re release Chaos Dwarfs - they will be on the verge of going under
and also if they hadnt f****ed up warhammer online
What are you talking about? Warhammer Online isn't even out yet and wont be out for another 6 months at best. We know barely nothing about it, and what I have seen so far looks fantastic. How can you say they screwed it up?
I think IamAhobgoblin was talking about the origonal warhammer online, which was a complete failure
back on topic, GW bosses are upsett about sales losses, since i get my supperiors ringing up randomly moaning that where not selling enough of [insert somethin here] and if we don't buck up sales the companys gonna go under
my only sollace with the GW phone recently was someone ordering a bull centaur body last friday
The dip is probablly down to lord of the rings hype dying down, but also don't forget that since 6th edition Warhammer came out, the following fantasy re-releases have been made: Empire (twice), Orcs and Goblins (twice), Dwarfs (twice), Vampire Counts, Dark Elves, High Elves, Skaven, Hordes of Chaos, Khemri, Lizardmen, Beasts of Chaos, Bretonians, Wood Elves - with ogre kingdoms the only new release. There's only so much you can do with each miniatures range, so some new releases were bound to be on the cards.
TABLES LIE:
Sure sales are still healthy, but the pre-tax profit (which is the important one) is down. That resulted in an $0.11 drop in single share value, which some companinies held over 20million shares. That is a lot of money to lose in one go, and should it decide to pull the plug, GW will be in the deep, brown and smelly.
I don't think anyone really knows what's going to be in the new list. For all we know everything you asked for above will be there.
Or they may totally F' up the entire list or decide to drop units. I can easily see them ditching both monsters and dropping the hobgoblins all together. This is just a guess but the prospect of GW redoing the CD list is as depressing as it is exciting. Why? Because I have the sneaking suspicion that because it hasn't been updated in so long, that the list now will look NOTHING like it does now. Plus it will be a perfect opportunity for GW to ditch units under the banner of "Well they didn't work in the past, blah, blah blah". No CDs didn't work in the past for 2 reasons:
1) Most people hated the figures (sorry hatters)
2) GW very rarely if ever featured them after about WD#180, or even talked about them.
Note neither of these two reasons have anything in the slightest to do with a bad army composition or a bad range of troops.
That being said if Phil Kelly does the army I have total faith in him to make it kick-butt. If he get saddled with that sniveling, lame ass, butt weasel know as Jake Thorton I will go postal. Why? Ask any High elf player. He so totally eviscerated the High Elf list in 6th that he is widely reviled as the worst writer at GW by almost any HE player. Lastly it seems that it was his "brainfart" otherwise known as the Intrigue at Court rule that made it into the 6th edition book. GRRRRR 
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My one hope is that when it is time they listen to our input as we are the only ones playing CD. I highly doubt anyone at CW plays them, at least regularly.
Simply my .0000000002 cents 
For a sneak as to GW's thoughts simply look at the dwarf book and the upcoming High Elves army book. CDs will get an elite infantry option ala longbeards and Lothern Sea Guard. CD infantry will most likely have the same option.
You mean, like an upgrade allowing you do make a unit of warriors Immortals?
(Note that orcs have this aswell, with Big'uns as do Chaos with Chosen).
Whats the problem with that?
You mean, like an upgrade allowing you do make a unit of warriors Immortals?
(Note that orcs have this aswell, with Big'uns as do Chaos with Chosen).
Whats the problem with that?
Exactly.
I have no problem with this and it represents a logical step for whatever GW ends up calling CD elite infantry.
I'm also willing to bet that CD figures in the new model range will be non-hats for 2 reasons:
1) the look of the models in the past severely hurt sales? Want proof? Who was the only army to get neglected in 5th & 6th? CDs were rare before hand, there had to bean explanation; it sure wasn't the army list, its one of the thoughest out there.
2) While no means set in stone look at the crew of the Hellcannon...
YMMV
I would assume that in a rewrite of the CD list the large terror causers might take an additional hero slot, but wouldnt go away. Hobgobs would likely go up in price but come stock with shield, and likely get more options like spears.
I would think blunderbuss rules would change as they are so unusual now, maybe something like the ogres, say an artilery dice per rank of shots with no penalty for range. (this would be an improvement vs cav/ogres)
Dwarfs didn't get screwed up in the last rewrite, they are actually quite capable of being downright hard. I have no worries that a rewrite wouldn't benefit us greatly, while balancing certain things, like making earthshaker 0-1.
Possible on all accounts.
The lack of spears for hobbos is indeed puzzling.