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Well i live in the uk and i used CD against a GW staff member in a GW. I kicked his arse too

they only banned them because they knew how much ass they would kick

Why Not get an E-petition together, requesting RH CDs be allowed in the UK GT.  Just Post a Thread that CDo and HoH members can add their names and email addrsses to.  We could then email a link to GW through the 'Contact Us' Link.  Even Jervis Johnson may be an unlikely ally as in his Standard Bearer articles in WD, he seems to be fighting the good fight to bring WH back to the 'good old days'.  Might work, might not.  But at least we're doing something.  If we spread the word through our e-mail address books, I am sure we would get even more people to sign just because it's a fight against the opression of the many for the good of the few (am I sounding Churchill-esque yet?). I know a lot of my friends will e-sign a petition just because I ask them to.  What do you say?

The only email we have available is the events team that organises UK events and tournaments (including WHGT)  events@games-workshop.co.uk.  Asside from this, I (or anyone else in the UK where postage will be cheaper) can post a printed version to :

Jervis Johnson
c/o White Dwarf
Design Studio
Games Workshop
Willow Road
Nottingham
NG7 2WS
United Kingdom

Better still, if anyone lives in Nottingham (UK) they ca just pop o up and post it straight through the Design Studio door.  I was their a while ago, delivering an entry to a warhammer writing competition by hand.  They have no problems with taking stuff like this

Jervis has been at the Design studio for Eons and has had a hand in pretty much everything that GW has done post Rogue Trader.  He Managed the Specialist Games department when they first separated, was the Editor of the Citadel Journal at one point and ***sharp intake of breath*** It was he who championed the publishing of the Blood Angels GYB list in White Dwarf.  I believe he will be receptive to this sort of thing as he openly publishes his contact address (above) in White Dwarf asking for opinions or even to arrange a game at Warhammer World.  It could even be prudent for someone who lives in/near Nottingham to arrange a meeting and present the petition by hand, as well as explain the good work that people are doing on websites such as this.

The Idea may be flawed, and as I mentioned in the post before it may not work.  But doing something is better than doing nothing and you never know, it just might work.  What have we got to lose? It takes all of 2 mins to sign up to an e-petition, a further 5 to print it and around 30p (60 cents US) for a stamp to post it.

Nice Letter!  White dwarf used to publish a fuel for the furnace section for readers letters at fuelforthefurnace@whitedwarf.co.uk.  One month I got Grombrindals pick and won tickets to the UK games Day 2006.  Now WD doesn't do this section any more and it was a while ago but I am sure my notification came from Owen_Rees@whitedwarf.co.uk Owen Rees was the WD Editor at the time.  It's a long shot but we could try Jervis_Johnson@whitedwarf.co.uk to see if that works, or try the @games-workshop.co.uk. as it is quite likely he may have one of those addresses to. We don't have to stop at Jervis, I'm sure Gav Thorpe, Allesio Cavatore(??) and that have these addresses too in a similar format e.g. gav_thorpe@games-workshop.co.uk. They Could only ignore us couldn't they! there is no crime in guessing email addresses!!!

Arrgh! Hands Up! my mistake, just been through my e-mail archive and still have the Grombrindals pick email, it was from owen.rees@games-workshop.co.uk  I am pretty sure that other email addresses within the GW company will be along these lines. Curse my seive like memory!

ok here goes:

Citadel Design Team
Tim Adcock, Mike Anderson, Dave Andrews, Juan Diaz, Martin Footitt, Colin Grayson, Jes Goodwin, Mark Harrison, Alex Hedstrom, Gary Morley, Aly Morrison, Trish Morrison, Brian Nelson, Seb Perbet, Alan Perry, Michael Perry and Dave Thomas

GW Contributors
Dave Andrews, Alessio Cavatore, Dave Cross, Jes Goodwin, Andy Hoare, Niel Hodgson, Jervis Johnson, Mark Jones, Phil Kelly, Mike Mason, Chad Mierzwa, Karen Miksza, Stuart White, Dominic Murray, Gavin Thorpe, Adam Troke and Matthew Ward.

Just off the top of my head just kidding, they print this in the small print in the cover of the UK WD.  Owen Rees is still the UK editor. And, don't forget the Godfather:- Rick Priestley.

Rik Turner and James Milne are the current UK WD Journalists.

I think if we bombard everyone with e-mails it may annoy them to the point of actually doing something about it.  I think the design team mentioned above are the figure sculptors, the Contributers seem to be the ones who write army books & suppliments etc.

One thing we need to make clear is our goal, it would be all to easy to demand an army book which is likely to get fobbed off, we all need to be asking for the same thing (IE make CD WHGT Legal) so I think xanders idea of a standard letter is probably best.  We could forward it to all the above mentioned personnel and if nothing else would get them talking about it.

According to this thread at "The Pyramid Vault" Jervis' e-mail address in 2004 was: Jervis@games-workshop.co.uk - but as said - it was in 2004 when he was "head fanatic".

i wouldnt bother sending it to a random unlisted address, as chances are someone who doesnt expect random public e-mails whilst busy at work are very likely to ignore/delete or read and forget them. they may just see it as another one of those 'xxx army is my favourite and i want it to have more attention' e-mails.

i think a written letter to jervis's standard bearer about unpublished army list armies becoming more popular due to the combined effort of worldwide gamers, which may influence him to write about it, which will get CD's a hell of a lot more standing ground than unsolicited e-mails.

i think giving who it concerns a link to this discussion might be useful in getting some notice, as this shows everones opinions clearly.

i think the models were pretty cool have a few painted up as mordians in my small IG force. I always like their mini evil terminators.

Ok so the idea thy came from a high gravity planet that made them shorter and stronger was a bit stupid, but other than that they were alright, although i think a lot more popular to players of space marine (those airshippy things were cool).

Sorry for being the bad guy here! - thought it was an officiel statement being at the UK GW site, but apparently this has been one the site like forever (allready there in march 2006) - before the GT UK rulepack 2007 and Hammerhands writing with Mr. Aderson. I have delete the post again - for avording any futher misunderstandings.

But I am interested in whats behind harvestmouse's reply about the ePetition on 18-09-2007 at HoH.

And thank you Xander for the insight - I just got carried away! So sorry!

Huh?
I see 5 posts celebrating Willmark linking to his lists...

at least its a positive response, it shows that one day all things will be well again, although i also agree a discreet pdf for GT's will see us through for a while yet.

Sorry to hear youv'e been poorly ,peace and healing to you both there.
On the issue of CD legality for GT that as others point out is easy to achieve adjustment to PDF and a link to conversion articles and they could monitor interest through rising dwarf sales ie.Bfsp and others, it would take about a day.
The difficulty i am sure we all appreciate is balanced adjustment this would take a while longer unless they listened to players(which they do when playtesting),an unlikely event but we can but hope

I think the main point that could be stressed for GW to make adjustments is that there are now many conversions of traitor dwarfs into CD .These on there own would sell so people could convert an army so there is no need to produce models and as stated before the Marketing analysis on sales of dwarves would show GW what the demend would be.Its almost like free marketing although it obviously will only show the players who are prepared or can convert an army it would make GW MONEY?
This is the fundermental difference from attempts in the past the conversion articles and feature armies are made ,easy money even if not space marines

I would say any of the conversions of Bfsp sets with chaos marauder bits by any of the talented converters on this site

The point I'm making is that any list revisions will cost the list the official status it hs from ravening hordes. GW playtests all its official lists thoroughly, it won't do that for this because its not worth it. I'm not bothered about the GT, I just want to be able to use my army in local clubs and tournaments without all the "not official complaints"

Nice full stop Hammerhand.Its always worth trying things the one constant in life is change so i optimistically wait for that , meanwhile i will add to my army to be able to use the traitor dwarf book with counts as

I think we should all agree to leave tis thread well alone now, if there is a response it deserves a new thread. We don't want a repeat of the rumour thread on Asur.net do we?