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I've not seen much on using DOW rare choices in CD armies, and wondering about the following.  I plan to use these choices eventually and I'll post how they did, but I'd also like to hear yes or no and why.  My three choices to try are Orges, the Cursed Company, and a Giant.

Where does it say that CDs can use DoW?  I don't think it says they can in the Ravening Hordes list (I'm entering a tournie soon with CD, so if they can use DoW i'll need to cite some kind of reference).

cheers,

R.

P.S. sorry about hijacking the thread.

What about the Albion giants?

To further comments about the Giant inclusion,  There was an article in WD a few months back, when the new Giant model came.  In there the races were listed that could have the Giant and the Chaos Dwarfs were mentioned.  There was even picture of a slave Giant!

Rhinox riders or Maneaters might make a good giant replacement.

Looking at the Rhinox rules I think I'll use them myself.

Come on, CD must have slave giants!

What number WD is that, I think I have it (I was recently given roughly 10 years worth of WDs along with the newest ones).

I have been researching the DOW issue for the CD.  Some conclusions follow.  Yes, the WD mentions races and giants and CD isn't one of the listed BUT DOW are.  Carrying this further, CD can hire DOW.  I've printed the DOW list off GW.  If a DOW unit wasn't allowed it said so.  Giants aren't mentioned as a "no".  I've talked with many gamers and several GW boys and with the above facts, the opinions see no reason as to why CD can't use the DOW giant.  Also, if you were to use a giant and your opponet still didn't agree, then for the sake of a good game for everyone as well as good sportmenship and Chaos Dwarf reasoning, just take another earthshaker!!!  

your logic is flawed.. A Giant has its own rules.. its is not a DoW Unit.. Its is Just a Giant.. They can be Hired by Dogs of War Armies.. Your logic would allow me to take Asarnil the Dragonlord in a Chaos army Even though his rules state he cant. as I am taking Asarnil as a Dogs of War Choice in a Dark Elf List because Dogs of War Armies can take him. Basically. if it is a Unit in the Dogs of War List in Chronicles you can use it so Pikemen, Heavy Cavalry ,Etc or a Regiment of Renown if the unit states your army can field the choice.. Basically the Giant is treated as a Regiment of Renown more than a Dogs of War Unit.

Well, rationally I can't see any reason why a Giant couldn't be taken by a CD army.  Giants are DoW (in other words, mercenaries) and CD have piles of money to hire potential mercenaries with.

The problem I have is that it doesn't actually say in the RH list that CD can use DoW (not just giants, but any DoW).

I'm seriously hoping one of you guys can prove me wrong about the whole DoW thing....
I know Nehan mentioned that in "another fragment" of the RH list it mentions that CD can take DoW, unfortunately I have no idea what that fragment is or where to find it.

Ok.. First. The Giant clearly states which armies may take it. Its pretty plain.. they are free to download and read from the GW site. I personally dont have problem with someone taking a giant. but it doesnt change its legality of it in game terms.
On the Dogs of War.. it states in the Dogs of War Rules.. Chaos Dwarfs, Wood Elves, High Elves and Orcs & Goblins can field any unit from the Dogs of War Army List except Dwarf Mercenaries.

and this Supports the no giant legality even more. as the Giant again has its own rules and is NOT an addition to the Dogs of War Army List but mearly a unit which Dogs of War Armies may choose to take.

Really i was a bit confused.. Khemri gets a Bone Giant.. LOL which is better in my opinion.. but can take a DoW Giant. LOL

But really i dont see the usefulness of it really.. i would rather take the Taurus.

Ah, thanks.
I don't have the RH book, just the CD list itself.

I suppose you could just use the Giant as a missile magnet but Black Orcs do that job well too. It could always be a stand in for the Kollosus.

I like to use Duellists as my DOW as their manoverability is priceless and thier effectivness at protecting my slow moving dwarfs (not being relentless and all that

Other than that I would say Ogres such as Ironguts or Leadbelchers or anything from the east that might cause confusion on the westerners such as DoW heavy cavalry representing Nipponese Samurai lead by a Samurai CD on the grudge pony (use for that useless mini). My Duellists are Nippon Ninjas with a CD ninja leading them.

Im one for using DoW that fit in with the feeling of an army, I dont like RoR as most are over priced and flipping useless, Giants of Albion in DoW list is one that springs to mind. The only good RoR are Long Drong (CD no no though) and the moving cannons! A good way to get us deprived daaemonic engineers an excuse for daemonic walky cannons, a true CD cannon

DoW are good for adding flavour to an army and I would wholly suggect giving a go at something, if only to break up painting the same colour scheme.

It's not far off number 300, if we're going by the UK editions.

As for Dogs of War to hire for our army, I'd only use Ogres in big units. I have use two Leadbelchers or three Ironguts in the past and they just don't do much. However Lumpin Croop's Fighting Cocks are cheap and pretty handy at guarding war machines.

Because having fear causing Ogres is a nice option to have.

I just like ogres, always have. Not happy about the T4 copared to T5 of previous editions. Still having at least one unit that causes fear can't be all that bad.

Thats why I have four plain old ogres, for the models I used Chaos Ogres and painted them to match the rest of my CD army.

15!? Good god what is the point cost of that? How do you have them configed?