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From Mantic. Apparently they're dragons and not, as the models suggest, those little plastic ride-on see-saw things you get in the toddler part of the playground.

Ha! you took the words out of my mouth.
is there a slot in the side you put 20p's in?
Mantic infuriate me. They have the means to do plastics and they just waste it. Did someone actually get paid to sculpt these? Is his job title actually 'sculptor'? How does he sleep at night? Just flabbergasting. And there aren't many situations that justify that word. But this is definitely one of them. Jesus.
Hahahaha.
They are drakon rides, so they don't ride dragon. But I agree those don't realy look like something you would want to sell.
How is a Drakon not a Dragon? I can see it has two legs, but that makes it a Wyvern. Why call it something so obviously derived from "Dragon"? "Draco" is Latin for Dragon, after all. But that is the least of these miniatures' problems.
Im sorry to say they look kinda like those cheap dragon figures you buy in welsh gift shops. Not that I have a problem with that. Kinda cheap looking.
I am going to go against the trend here, but I don't mind them. Sure they are not the fierce dragon models that they could have been. I would certainly use them in a wargame. I suppose I am sort of player that likes a little bit of "toy-ish" charm in my games.

I would even field a cavalry unit riding (or trying to ride) the following mounts.

Thommy H Wrote:


Here is an example of what I have in my collection.

Empire Pistolier on War pig - Left Side



Empire Pistolier on War pig - Right side

They remind me of the little plastic Dragons that came in the old Mighty Empires set.
Haha, those Dragon Riders were.... eh... Horrible.
lol i would be tempted to get them just for the comedy value Big Grin
So it looks like I am the only person who would actually field these dragons on a gaming table. Well I guess my "street cred" has just diminshed. - Hang my head in shame. Happy
I think that their identical poses with the left leg so far back is what makes them look so funny from that angle, but they do look odd in general. Some different heads would have gone a long way, but it seems that only the champion gets one.
I would also point out that the heads look like the Lizardmen glyphs - I.E. Square, with rounded edges.
On top of that, the "scales" actually appear to be most sculptors simple pile of gold with gems and jewels in it. Just painted to look like scales.
The wings don't flow from rest of the body and look tacked on and don't connect to the "goldpile" properly.
The wings don't imply ANY movement at all, let alone that they ever might fly.
The stance looks unnatural (not in a dragon way. In a physically impossible/uncomfortable way).
The left leg is under the body and doesn't look like it can come away from it, but a part of it.
The rider's helmets look "gummy", but that could be the paint having been drying up in painting.
The horns look like the spines fromt he GW Cave Drake's head instead of bony/hairy protrusions.
The riders are sat on saddles on stools somehow held to the neck and magically don't slide down.
The lack of arms makes them wyvernesque instead of draconian and unbalances the models horribly.
The unit champion's drakon looks like it's seen something scary, farted and the wind is blowing it backwards, whilst its slightly spasticated, squared-off head looks scared and has NO horns (surely the most powerful warrior would use the most powerful of the mounts... Generally, bigger horns means more powerful/dangerous/waeponified in the animal world).

Just my first thoughts.
I'm with Baggronor on this. The thing thatgets me really annoyed about Mantic is that they have the ability to be soooo muchbetter than they are. Why can't we just have some nice generic fantasy elves dwarfs and the like which we can used without feeling embarressed at the awful sculpt quality?
C'mon Thommy! These models are great...for kids!
There is such a huge gulf in the miniatures market these days. How things like this get produced in the age of Andy Foster's dragon, Paul Muller's ghouls or even the stuff coming out of Games Workshop at the moment, I have no idea. Not all sculptor's are made equal, but you can't be competitive with this kind of thing.
Argh, my eyes!! Stop resurrecting this horrible thread!!

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There is such a huge gulf in the miniatures market these days. How things like this get produced in the age of Andy Foster's dragon, Paul Muller's ghouls or even the stuff coming out of Games Workshop at the moment, I have no idea. Not all sculptor's are made equal, but you can't be competitive with this kind of thing.

Bizarre, isn't it. All that money and this is what they produced. Although, you'd be hard-pressed to find anything else nearly as shocking from any other mini company, I think, even the tiny ones. Which makes these all the more absurd. They don't seem to understand that once you have a reputation for being crap, its permanent.

Anyone got some ideas for similar size dragon models that actually loot nice, preferably the serpentine style. I'd like to get some warhawk riders but hate the surfing guys, and since the WE army already has a dragon, having smaller dragons would be nice. Unfortunately there are a lot of bad dragon models out there.

dncswlf Wrote:

Are the riders humans though?

No, Mantic elfs, which certainly doesn't help if ya know what I mean...

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