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Does that mean you will stop collecting CD's if GW releases an army book and range of figures?


Not at all, I'm just not chomping at the bit to see it right now, I guess. I know it isn't happening any time soon, after all, and I'm happy doing my Chaos Dwarfy stuff in our forgotten corner of the Warhammer world.

Except they were always pretty niche...

I started playing them during 5th Edition, when they were available in Games Workshop still and, even then, they were pretty obscure. Bearing in mind that their rules were released in White Dwarf rather than in an army book and their range never recieved any additions after the initial release.

So yeah, obviously that's not great support, but what I'm saying is that they never had support comparable to The Empire or Orcs and Goblins or any other 'core' army.

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CDs are niche because they never received the initial support, not just from GW, but from gamers as well.


Yeah, I think this is an important point. Anything can be a success if people buy it - why would GW create an army for the sole purpose of not supporting it so it dies?

No, Chaos Dwarfs were not succesful in the past because, for whatever reason, people didn't latch onto them. When I had my first game with my revamped army a few weeks ago, the first thing someone asked me was, "So...why do you play Chaos Dwarfs...?" He was a veteran player, who had been around when they were supported, so it wasn't as if he was just asking why I played an unsupported force - he wanted to know, full stop, why I'd decided to play such a weird army.

They were always a weird army: rules given away free in White Dwarf, geographically isolated from the rest of the Warhammer World (with no justification for going anywhere outside their home land), utilising units and models from an existing army, their own monsters, magic and war machines (in a period where this wasn't usually the case)...it goes on...

They're the equivelant of Sisters of Battle in 40K - they're still around, and they're supported in some small way, but they're not exactly an army you see a lot of and you'll always get interested looks when you take them out to play a game. Bizarrely enough, I once collected Sisters of Battle too, actually.

Anyway, the point is that I think it's cool to collect and play something a bit different.

Fun GW fact: the sale of Space Marines alone pays for the production and marketing of everything else they make.

Not just 40K...Space Marines. That's why they get a release every other month and appear on all the promotional material; because they sell about ten times* the amount that anything else does.




*Random figure plucked from the air.
Hell as long as they have a PDF sheet for the army list I'm happy.

I don't need no stinking army book to validate my choice. Stomping puny armies into oblivion with my force of mask/helmet evil stunties will be more than enough to validate my choice, not that I'm looking for GW's or anyone else's validation mind you.

As an aside to the Army Book comment: i stopped looking for the "army book" Since to my understanding its simply a compilation of the White Dwar articles in question. Specfically #'s 161-163, which I already have.
Yep, it's just a compliation. The only thing the book has that the White Dwarfs don't are special characters, but you can get their rules (more or less) and fluff from the wiki pages:

Zhatan the Black
Astragoth
Gorduz Backstabber
Cool thanks for the confirmation.

Thommy H Wrote:
Fun GW fact: the sale of Space Marines alone pays for the production and marketing of everything else they make.


Not surprised by this. I believe the reasons for this are simple. They are flexible good troops, plus you can paint them anyway you want and it fits the fluff.

Plus they are a shining example of Marketing done right, on of the few in GW's typical make a new game/figure then forget it for 3-4 years policy.

Dracomancer Wrote:
Well the best one I ever heard (didn't happen to me, but I saw it mentionned on another forum) was about some kid who told a Blood Angels player he had painted his models wrong, when the guy asked him to clarify, he replied "Don't you know Space Marines are supposed to be blue?", seriously, some kids...


Hardly surprising... funny, but not surprising <sigh>.

How about trebuchet as "terb-u-CHET" Happy
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Thinking about it the only thing that is lacking for CDs is the magical item list, which is understandably spartan with the pdf list we have as of right now; magical standards being the greatest area that is lacking IMHO.
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