08-29-2007, 11:14 AM
It might of worked back in 3rd edition when chaos dwarfs were part of chaos armies but i dont think it would work so well now. They dont worship the chaos gods so they shouldn't be using chaos icons.
I wrote this mission statement for a reason.
Wallacer, and every other person has the right to their opinion. It is not the job of myself, or anyone else here to disallow him this right. He expressed his opinion about the morality of slavery in a very open and non-threatening way. When Thommy H took offensive to this, Wallacer very politely asked that if he wished to discuss the matter that he would be willing to do it by PM.
Emphasis mine.
The fact is that Wallacer is discussing the historical morality of slavery. If I understand him, he is suggesting that in a time where slavery is deemed commonplace by society it would not be a factor in determining whether or not "Chaos Dwarfs consider themselves Evil" which is what this topic has been addressing. Wallacer is making a valid role playing argument here and was polite about it.
You will have next to no disagreement here. But the fact is the topic is talking about Chaos Dwarfs, and whether they consider themselves to be evil. Maybe they do, maybe they do not, that's why it is called a discussion. Some people may be of the opinion that when a person from the Old World is determining if the Chaos Dwarfs are evil, that slavery may not be considered as an evil thing, and may not weigh in to their decision, based on historical morality.
Slavery is not moral. Command over another's free will is appalling. But you must accept that their were times when this was not the moral code. In Roman times for example people had slaves. "Good" people had slaves. Such people would not consider themselves, in that time, in that context, to be bad. If now they were alive and had to look at their own morality again, they may think otherwise but the fact remains that slavery was not always considered evil in and of itself.
The matter on that is closed. I respect both sides of the argument. However, I cannot accept intolerant and hurtful comments on this forum, it goes against everything this forum represents.
These sorts of comments are not acceptable and are deliberate character attacks:
Each of these comments is going to cost one slave. Thommy H, if you intend to continue to be a part of this forum I expect no more such comments. You are a valued member of this community, but I will not stand such an attitude towards other members, I don't care if they are talking about the most vile sin imaginable, I will not have such a negative attitude. You have been warned. Thommy H, if you feel the need to discuss this with me, please send me a PM.
Let's get back to the fun that is Chaos Dwarfs, shall we? 
if im not mistaken, every god in warhammer is chaos and each one is manifested by an emotion,
for example khorne is anger and sigmar is love.
hashut is probably greed.
i think slaneesh is kinky bondage
with that in mind when a person experiances an emotion the god of the respective emotion grows stronger
when a new emotion is discovered a new god of that emotion is born as during the sundering when the elves created slaneesh
chuck norris, or possibly the old ones
the old ones created a world as a haven , then left and created the lizardmen in their own image to act and guardians,
elves were the second race and the giant frog priests showed them magic and they fucked up and created chaos dueing the sunder, elves shows everyone else magic and then havok ensued. thus giving chaos all the magic it needed.
so if it wasnt the high elves chaos wouldnt exist tecniqually because they were the first race to show chaos like urges. plus warp stone didnt help
chuck norris, or possibly the old ones
the old ones created a world as a haven , then left and created the lizardmen in their own image to act and guardians,
elves were the second race and the giant frog priests showed them magic and they fucked up and created chaos dueing the sunder, elves shows everyone else magic and then havok ensued. thus giving chaos all the magic it needed.
so if it wasnt the high elves chaos wouldnt exist tecniqually because they were the first race to show chaos like urges. plus warp stone didnt help

An invasion of the dwarf capital? Not bloody likely Im afraid.
Chances are that we wont ever see the CD in anything but ordinary battles or against small outposts. Would be way to great an impact on the gaming world if they were to conquer one of the holds.
- Tallhat


Im loving all these replies bill. I need to compile them all. I dont think tallhat is going to be too pleased with that comment though 