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Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Nicodemus - 07-02-2017 12:36 AM

Many members of CDO have used Photobucket as a freely available resource for image storage which allowed them to link images to the forum (called third party hosting). Unfortunately, with the abrupt and unexpected change in Photobucket's Terms of Service third party hosting is no longer permitted for free accounts or any of their basic paid accounts, and can only be restored at a cost of $40USD per month. This is a very disappointing and underhanded tactic by Photobucket, but they are a business and well within their rights to do-so. We as a community do not have to kneel to their pressure (as if any self respecting Dawi Zharr would)!



Chaos Dwarfs Online has a solution, and we need you're help to restore the forum to its former glory.

Below is a list of instructions, which we need you to read carefully. This requires little effort from our members and, most importantly, no editing of any posts made to the forum!

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Instructions for members who have content hosted with Photobucket.

1.) Login to your Photobucket account and from the right hand side select "Download album"



The next screen can take a few second to load. Wait for the CAPTCHA prompt and follow the instructions to show you are not a robot.



You will be shown a progress screen letting you know that the image backup is underway. Depending on how much content you have and how busy their servers are this may take seconds, minutes, or longer.



Once complete you will be presented with the option to download your bundled content.  This will save a .zip archive to your hard drive.



2.) Save the zipped archive of your Photobucket contents. This will give you a file with the format (YourPhotobucketUsername)_#######.zip
You need to save the file without renaming it.  We need your Photobucket username in order for this fix to work, and it's easiest if you just leave your Photobucket username as part of the filename.

3.) CDO Staff would appreciate it if you would remove non-CDO content from the .zip archive at this stage.

4.) Upload your (YourPhotobucketUsername)_#######.zip file to Dropbox, Google Drive, or some other source we can download it from easily.

5.) Send a PM to Staff, which is an account all CDO Staff and Admin have access to. Include the link we can download your .zip archive from, as well as ONE example page here on CDO that you created in the past which has a broken photobucket link (presently photobucket images shouldn't even be showing the ad so just point us to a thread with missing images).


And that's it, just sit back and let us take it from there.

DO NOT edit any of your posts that have links to photobucket.com in them, we take care of this!! Takes Hat off

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As a large amount of forum content is image-based we heavily rely on this content. In recognition of member's efforts to restore their content that had been hosted on Photobucket we are offering a new Medal for this occasion.

Behold the flaming fractured camera:

To be eligible to receive the medal members will need to backup their content and get the .zip archives to us ASAP.

If you are a member that has not been so unlucky as to have hosted your content with Photobucket, do not fret, you too can earn the swanky new medal.  We are still working out the details, but there are lots of members who are no longer active and we will need to backup their data (manually, picture-by-picture). There will be a special version of the medal for members that partake in rescuing this content.  

Staff are organizing and prioritizing a list of pages that will need this sort of manual help, so please be patient. We will post another Migration to the Darklands - Stage II thread soon, and in there keen members can sign up to help out, but Staff will be coordinating assignments, so please don't jump the gun just yet and start backing up data. We want to ensure Stage I completes successfully first before trying to pull off the more labour-intensive Stage II Cheers!

This will remain a work-in-progress, and we may need to post updates, further clarifications, and corrections to the process as we go, so please bear with us and with any luck we should be able to recover the bulk of the missing and broken Photobucket content.  

~N

P.S. If you want to see what a restored page looks like, Xander and I tested this out with my main blog today. ~8 years of content restored without editing any pages - check it out: Nicodemus' *Restored* Forge of Unfinished Business.

P.P.S. The reason you don't need to edit your old posts is because we have some code that runs on-the-fly as the posts are read from the database and looks for links to Photobucket, and replaces them with a redirect to the image directory on the CDO server. If you go editing your old posts with img tags pointing to Photobucket this fix will not work.




Also on CDO: Golden Hat XXVII - Voting


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - clam - 07-02-2017 03:07 AM

I shall try, but for now Photobucket.com won't even load proper and let me look at my albums. Guess others came up with similar ideas and the "service" is overloaded right now.

EDIT: Anyone know how to download all pictures in one go if you have organised your bucket using folders and sub-folders (albums)?


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Admiral - 07-02-2017 05:18 AM

Brilliant work, Nicodemus and Xander!

@clam: Maybe. I can access my library now and could download just up until recently (in process, many subalbums to go; currently it doesn't work though), but overload issues do seem a huge risk these coming days.

Time to resume manual salvaging from others' inactive logs, just in case Photobucket goes down in flames... Stage 2 of the above masterplan will engage itself with this crucial issue to save our archives, but we might do best to strike out immediately in a more primitive salvage manner because time might be of the essence. As of now, most of our inactive members' remaining pictures from Photobucket are accessible, but this could be phased out any day - we have no way to know when this window shuts.

Therefore, after downloading your own albums as described above by Nicodemus I encourage everyone with time left-over on their hands and a will to help out to head over here and start salvaging worthy pictures from inactive CDO accounts - take your pick, the member list is long. Some of this might turn out to be redundant work once Stage 2 rolls out, but it will mean we have backups should Photobucket complete the lockdown or collapse utterly. I'd rather take some confusion and double work above risking to lose virtually all images that's gone before here on CDO.

Also, some Dakkadakka members have posited speculations as to Photobucket's motives: There exist a suspicion that Photobucket is intentionally making itself impossible to have its users download and migrate before shutting down finally, after grabbing some last money. Whatever the actual reasons, we would do best to seriously consider the possibility that Photobucket may cease to exist in the future.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Abecedar - 07-02-2017 05:55 AM

Well I've done that.   Its the best part of 5 hours of my life I'll never get back.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Pyro Stick - 07-02-2017 06:09 AM

clam Wrote:
EDIT: Anyone know how to download all pictures in one go if you have organised your bucket using folders and sub-folders (albums)?


I dont think there is. I tried looking for a solution as im having the same issue. Ive got over a thousand photos split over two dozen albums and at least a dozen sub albums but im having to download each one individually.

Is there any way to do this with my photos if they are split over dozens of different zip files? If i move all the relevant ones into one file and send it will it still work?


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Admiral - 07-02-2017 06:17 AM

I'm in the same situation. Lots of compartmentalization in my Photobucket as well. Shall we keep the Zip files separated as they come out of downloading different albums, or shall we pour every image into one common folder? (Guess separate Zips.)


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Pyro Stick - 07-02-2017 06:41 AM

Admiral Wrote:
I'm in the same situation. Lots of compartmentalization in my Photobucket as well. Shall we keep the Zip files separated as they come out of downloading different albums, or shall we pour every image into one common folder? (Guess separate Zips.)


I guess it doesnt matter really. If its just going by the image name and not the path name then it shouldnt make a difference if they are split up into their respective folders and sub folders. Would make everything a lot easier if putting every image we needed into one folder worked. Will it still work if i delete my photobucket account?


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Admiral - 07-02-2017 10:03 AM

I'd advise everyone to not delete their Photobucket account, just in case. Having it strewn about inactive should not be detrimental in any way. I have no knowledge of this technical matter whatsoever, but waiting for expert advice, the best advice is to touch nothing, wreck nothing.

I've not been able to download a sub-album is hours now. Anyone else who have the same issue?


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Pyro Stick - 07-02-2017 10:07 AM

Admiral Wrote:
I've not been able to download a sub-album is hours now. Anyone else who have the same issue?


The main problem i had was the page freezing when it said something like "preparing download, we will email you when its ready". I noticed it still sent me the download link in an email even if the page looked frozen so try that


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Skink - 07-02-2017 12:23 PM

I already fixed my blog by migrating to Imgur, but I volunteer to save and storage other people´s pics!


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - clam - 07-02-2017 12:55 PM

Pyro Stick Wrote:

Admiral Wrote:
I'm in the same situation. Lots of compartmentalization in my Photobucket as well. Shall we keep the Zip files separated as they come out of downloading different albums, or shall we pour every image into one common folder? (Guess separate Zips.)


I guess it doesnt matter really. If its just going by the image name and not the path name then it shouldnt make a difference if they are split up into their respective folders and sub folders. Would make everything a lot easier if putting every image we needed into one folder worked. Will it still work if i delete my photobucket account?


But with a sub-structure you would actually be able to name a picture the same name twice - so I'm rather certain that this will only work if you have a file for each album (and tell which album it is) unless you are certain that a filename will only appear ones in your overall account.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Malorndk - 07-03-2017 03:31 AM

This is such a genius solution. I love this admin team so much!!!

My bucket is sorted somewhat like this (Can't open it now due to load):

Primary bucket: Around 9 images
   \_ Chaos Dwarf Army: 600 images
   \_ You better work: 14 images
   \_ FFS WORK GODDAMMIT: 9 images

I already have the primary folder downloaded, but I will try to get the remaining 3, which I have used when my primary folder didn't work. Is that okay?


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Carcearion - 07-03-2017 05:07 AM

Just got back from a weekend trip, when phase 2 starts you have my axe!


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Nicodemus - 07-03-2017 05:35 PM

Stage II of the Photobucket backup is up and running. It's a little more involved than Stage I, but not terrible.  And like Calvin and Hobbes, when it's all over there'll be commendations and medals for everyone Cheers!

Hats off to tjub who is the first member (besides admin or staff) to have backed up his Photobucket account and get it to Staff.   tjub now has is new medal.

Please let us know if anything doesn't look right tjub - I noticed that data was in a Photobucket subdirectory called "Chaos Dwarfs" so I took the liberty of appropriately allocating the necessary directory structure here as well.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - tjub - 07-04-2017 12:49 AM

@Nicodemus: Wow! Thanks a lot, incredible work you guys... Takes Hat off

Edit: The blog has had a few dead links for years, but Ill try to get time to sort them out later. The least I could do.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Malorndk - 07-04-2017 03:10 PM

@Nicodemus: I asked a question earlier, which was:

Quote:
My bucket is sorted somewhat like this (Can't open it now due to load):

Primary bucket: Around 9 images
   \_ Chaos Dwarf Army: 600 images
   \_ You better work: 14 images
   \_ FFS WORK GODDAMMIT: 9 images

I already have the primary folder downloaded, but I will try to get the remaining 3, which I have used when my primary folder didn't work. Is that okay?


Thanks for all your hard work


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Nicodemus - 07-04-2017 08:47 PM

Malorndk Wrote:
@Nicodemus: I asked a question earlier, which was:

Quote:
My bucket is sorted somewhat like this (Can't open it now due to load):

Primary bucket: Around 9 images
   \_ Chaos Dwarf Army: 600 images
   \_ You better work: 14 images
   \_ FFS WORK GODDAMMIT: 9 images

I already have the primary folder downloaded, but I will try to get the remaining 3, which I have used when my primary folder didn't work. Is that okay?


Thanks for all your hard work


Apologies for missing your earlier message. If you can preserve the sub directory names and files are in the correct subdirs then it'll just work (famous last words)... but really, it should!


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Willmark - 07-07-2017 10:05 PM

Well within their rights but a pretty dick move on Photobucket's part. Looks like its time to move everything to Flicker.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Dînadan - 07-09-2017 06:41 AM

Tried to download my photobucket album yesterday and it wouldnt download; followed the steps in Nicodemius's guide but when I clicked 'download' nothing happened Sad


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Willmark - 07-09-2017 08:54 AM

I ran into the same issue.

It's possible servers are overwhelmed or they are now throttling certain accounts. I had to resort to downloading one at a time... I had these all backed up but the basement flood this spring fried the computer it was on. Sad


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Nicodemus - 07-09-2017 11:00 AM

Willmark is correct. For a few buckets I've had to try half a dozen times at least. I suggest you keep trying!


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Admiral - 07-09-2017 04:19 PM

Same here. I'm almost finished with my albums... All my subalbums didn't really take much time to download as such, but the waiting time for the command to work is stretching into days and days, while mapping CDO members. Perseverance is the only thing to overcome these PB troubles.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Willmark - 07-09-2017 09:31 PM

Admiral Wrote:
Perseverance is the only thing to overcome these PB troubles.


Part of me wonders if that's part of what PB is counting on: that people wont go to that much of an effort and just pay up or give up at least.


RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Admiral - 07-10-2017 01:55 AM

Possibly. Overread on DakkaDakka has presented this hypothesis, which accounts for the silly sum of money wanted by Photobucket. I'm leaning toward the same conclusion and suspect PB won't even be around next year. All the more reason to salvage now, or never:

Overread Wrote:

Azazelx Wrote:
Even if they do, I can't see how they can recover from a PR nightmare this bad.



Which is why I think this is intentional. Instead of just closing shop and getting hit with people suing them or forcing their hand to remain open (ala how MS had their hand forced when they wanted to end support for Win XP); they are instead simply making the service unaffordable to maintain for the average person. The average person is not going to pay hundreds for image hosting and they know this, even those who hardly know how to use the internet are not going to just pay up that sum of money. So everyone hates on them; everyone rages; everyone leaves. In a few months time Pbucket closes its doors and no one fights to have them remain around because anyone who is still current and active has moved on at that point.




RE: Photobucket Migration to the Darklands - Stage I - Abecedar - 07-10-2017 03:26 AM

Sorry I haven't been much help with all this.  I think I've gotten my zip files downloaded now but its been frustrating